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<title>{LITERATURE &gt; CYBERPUNK} - Boing Boing's Holiday Gift Guide part two: Fiction</title>
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<summary type="text/plain">Here's part two of my Boing Boing Holiday Gift Guide -- wherein I list the bestselling items that have been reviewed here in the past twelve months. Today, it's fiction. Don't miss yesterday's Kids' stuff and stuff about kids post, too! (Note that some of these titles appeared on yesterday's kids' list -- I wasn't sure how to handle cross-referencing for items that qualified for more than one list, so I just duplicated them for people who wanted to dive straight into the fiction list -- say -- rather than picking through the kids' list too) Rewired: The Post-Cyberpunk Anthology (John Kessel and James Patrick Kelly) Post-Cyberpunk Anthology shows how sf has changed since the Mirroshades era Original Boing Boing post Halting State (Charles Stross) Halting State: Heist novel about an MMORPG Original Boing Boing post Interface (Neal Stephenson) Neal Stephenson's underappreciated masterpiece Original Boing Boing post Wastelands: Stories of the Apocalypse (John Joseph Adams) Anthology of apocalyptic fiction Original Boing Boing post Futures from Nature (Henry Gee) 100 short-short sf stories from Nature Magazine Original Boing Boing post The SFWA European Hall of Fame: Sixteen Contemporary Masterpieces of Science Fiction from the Continent (James Morrow and Kathryn Morrow) A chance to read sf from outside of the Anglo Bubble Original Boing Boing post Little Brother (Cory Doctorow) My bestselling young adult novel about kids who hack for freedom Original Boing Boing post The Starry Rift (Jonathan Strahan) Science fiction anthology for teens Original Boing Boing post Steampunk (Ann and Jeff VanderMeer) Steampunk: the anthology Original Boing Boing post Distraction (Bruce Sterling) Bruce Sterling's visionary novel Distraction: still brilliant a decade later Original Boing Boing post The Yiddish Policemen's Union: A Novel (Michael Chabon) Wonderful blend of hard-boiled and Yiddish ironies Original Boing Boing post Cory Doctorow's Futuristic Tales Of The Here And Now (Cory Doctorow) A six-edition series of comics adapted from my short stories by an incredibly talented crew of writers, artists, inkers and letterers Original Boing Boing post Goodnight Bush: A Parody (Gan Golan, Erich Origen) A Goodnight Moon satire for the electoral season Original Boing Boing post Saturn's Children (Charles Stross) Stross's robopervy tribute to the late late Heinlein Original Boing Boing post Crooked Little Vein: A Novel (Warren Ellis) Comic net-perv novel that would make Goatse blush Original Boing Boing post Random Acts of Senseless Violence (Jack Womack) Unflinching, engrossing, difficult coming-of-age story Original Boing Boing post Boy Proof (Cecil Castellucci) A compassionate young adult novel about a weird, smart, angry girl Original Boing Boing post Cycler (Lauren McLaughlin) Smart YA novel about sex and sexuality Original Boing Boing post Anathem (Neal Stephenson) A great story, set in an alternative reality where people take long-term thinking seriously Original Boing Boing post The Armageddon Rag (George R.R. Martin) Sex, death, blood and rock-n-roll Original Boing Boing post How to Ditch Your Fairy (Justine Larbalestier) Hilarious kids book about the problems with fairies Original Boing Boing post Nation (Terry Pratchett) Moving and sweet young adult novel about science, superstition and decency Original Boing Boing post The Graveyard Book (Neil Gaiman) Spooky, magical retelling of The Jungle Book in a graveyard Original Boing Boing post The Forever War (Joe Haldeman) Classic anti-war sf novel to be a Ridley Scott film! Original Boing Boing post Zoe's Tale (John Scalzi) Scalzi's smart-ass young-adult sf thriller Original Boing Boing post Liberation: Being the Adventures of the Slick Six After the Collapse of the United States of America (Brian Francis Slattery) A magical road-novel about America in collapse, Bradbury meets Kerouac Original Boing Boing post...


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<td width="100%" style="font:9pt Verdana,Arial,Sans-serif;vertical-align:top;"><span style="color:#808080;font-variant:small-caps;">Www.Boingboing.Net</span> - Here's part two of my Boing Boing Holiday Gift Guide -- wherein I list the bestselling items that have been reviewed here in the past twelve months. Today, it's fiction. Don't miss yesterday's Kids' stuff and stuff about kids post, too! (Note that some of these titles appeared on yesterday's kids' list -- I wasn't sure how to handle cross-referencing for items that qualified for more than one list, so I just duplicated them for people who wanted to dive straight into the fiction list -- say -- rather than picking through the kids' list too) Rewired: The Post-Cyberpunk Anthology (John Kessel and James Patrick Kelly) Post-Cyberpunk Anthology shows how sf has changed since the Mirroshades era Original Boing Boing post Halting State (Charles Stross) Halting State: Heist novel about an MMORPG Original Boing Boing post Interface (Neal Stephenson) Neal Stephenson's underappreciated masterpiece Original Boing Boing post Wastelands: Stories of the Apocalypse (John Joseph Adams) Anthology of apocalyptic fiction Original Boing Boing post Futures from Nature (Henry Gee) 100 short-short sf stories from Nature Magazine Original Boing Boing post The SFWA European Hall of Fame: Sixteen Contemporary Masterpieces of Science Fiction from the Continent (James Morrow and Kathryn Morrow) A chance to read sf from outside of the Anglo Bubble Original Boing Boing post Little Brother (Cory Doctorow) My bestselling young adult novel about kids who hack for freedom Original Boing Boing post The Starry Rift (Jonathan Strahan) Science fiction anthology for teens Original Boing Boing post Steampunk (Ann and Jeff VanderMeer) Steampunk: the anthology Original Boing Boing post Distraction (Bruce Sterling) Bruce Sterling's visionary novel Distraction: still brilliant a decade later Original Boing Boing post The Yiddish Policemen's Union: A Novel (Michael Chabon) Wonderful blend of hard-boiled and Yiddish ironies Original Boing Boing post Cory Doctorow's Futuristic Tales Of The Here And Now (Cory Doctorow) A six-edition series of comics adapted from my short stories by an incredibly talented crew of writers, artists, inkers and letterers Original Boing Boing post Goodnight Bush: A Parody (Gan Golan, Erich Origen) A Goodnight Moon satire for the electoral season Original Boing Boing post Saturn's Children (Charles Stross) Stross's robopervy tribute to the late late Heinlein Original Boing Boing post Crooked Little Vein: A Novel (Warren Ellis) Comic net-perv novel that would make Goatse blush Original Boing Boing post Random Acts of Senseless Violence (Jack Womack) Unflinching, engrossing, difficult coming-of-age story Original Boing Boing post Boy Proof (Cecil Castellucci) A compassionate young adult novel about a weird, smart, angry girl Original Boing Boing post Cycler (Lauren McLaughlin) Smart YA novel about sex and sexuality Original Boing Boing post Anathem (Neal Stephenson) A great story, set in an alternative reality where people take long-term thinking seriously Original Boing Boing post The Armageddon Rag (George R.R. Martin) Sex, death, blood and rock-n-roll Original Boing Boing post How to Ditch Your Fairy (Justine Larbalestier) Hilarious kids book about the problems with fairies Original Boing Boing post Nation (Terry Pratchett) Moving and sweet young adult novel about science, superstition and decency Original Boing Boing post The Graveyard Book (Neil Gaiman) Spooky, magical retelling of The Jungle Book in a graveyard Original Boing Boing post The Forever War (Joe Haldeman) Classic anti-war sf novel to be a Ridley Scott film! Original Boing Boing post Zoe's Tale (John Scalzi) Scalzi's smart-ass young-adult sf thriller Original Boing Boing post Liberation: Being the Adventures of the Slick Six After the Collapse of the United States of America (Brian Francis Slattery) A magical road-novel about America in collapse, Bradbury meets Kerouac Original Boing Boing post...


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<title>{LITERATURE &gt; CYBERPUNK} - Boing Boing's Holiday Gift Guide part one: Kids</title>
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<summary type="text/plain">Well, it's coming up to the holidays and I've started to make my list and fill it in. As a starting point, I went through all the books and DVDs and gadgets I'd reviewed on Boing Boing since last November and looked at what had been the best-sellers among BB's readership, figuring you folks have pretty good taste! As I was taking a walk down old review lane, I realized that many of you would probably be interested in seeing these lists too, so I've turned them into a series of blog-posts that I'll be sticking up, one per day, for the next week or so. Today I'm starting with kids' media and media about kids and child-rearing. Later this week, I'll do fiction, nonfiction, comics and graphic novels, CDs and DVDs and gadgets and everything else, one a day. Hope this helps you with your holiday shopping as much as it's helped me with mine! Baby's First Mythos (C.J. Henderson) Cthluhoid picture book Original Boing Boing post Invention of Hugo Cabret (Brian Selznik) Award-winning steampunk graphic novel for kids Original Boing Boing post Good as Lily (Derek Kirk Kim) Ass-kicking girl-positive graphic novel for young readers Original Boing Boing post The Plain Janes (Cecil Castellucci, Jim Rugg) Funny, spirited little story about a gang of girls named Jane at a strait-laced high-school, rejected by the mainstream, and their art adventures. Original Boing Boing post Little Brother (Cory Doctorow) My bestselling young adult novel about kids who hack for freedom Original Boing Boing post The Starry Rift (Jonathan Strahan) Science fiction anthology for teens Original Boing Boing post St. Trinian's: The Entire Appalling Business (Ronald Searle) Ronald Searle's original dark, weird and hilarious St Trinian's comics Original Boing Boing post The Adventures of Johnny Bunko: The Last Career Guide You'll Ever Need (Daniel H. Pink) Optimistic and iconoclastic career guide in manga form Original Boing Boing post Alice in Wonderland Tattoos Alice in Wonderland temporary tatts Original Boing Boing post Freakazoid - The Complete First Season The best TV cartoon since the Max Fleischer era, on DVD Original Boing Boing post Boy Proof (Cecil Castellucci) A compassionate young adult novel about a weird, smart, angry girl Original Boing Boing post Cycler (Lauren McLaughlin) Smart YA novel about sex and sexuality Original Boing Boing post My Mother Wears Combat Boots: A Parenting Guide for the Rest of Us (Jessica Mills) Kick-ass punk-parenting book Original Boing Boing post How to Ditch Your Fairy (Justine Larbalestier) Hilarious kids book about the problems with fairies Original Boing Boing post Nation (Terry Pratchett) Moving and sweet young adult novel about science, superstition and decency Original Boing Boing post ABC3D (Marion Bataille) The best pop-up book in the world Original Boing Boing post The Baby Sleep Solution: A Proven Program to Teach Your Baby to Sleep Twelve Hours a Night (Suzy Giordano) The best parenting book I've read Original Boing Boing post How Children Learn (John Holt) Cllassic of human, kid-centered learning Original Boing Boing post The Graveyard Book (Neil Gaiman) Spooky, magical retelling of The Jungle Book in a graveyard Original Boing Boing post How Children Fail (John Holt) Angry lessons from failures to teach Original Boing Boing post 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: A Pop-Up Book (Sam Ita) The paper kraken wakes Original Boing Boing post Alphabutt (Kimya Dawson) Weird, jangly, hilarious awesome music for kids Original Boing Boing post Zoe's Tale (John Scalzi) Scalzi's smart-ass young-adult sf thriller Original Boing Boing post Free to Be...You and Me (The 35th Anniversary Edition, Hardcover) (Marlo Thomas and Friends) The book every kid needs Original Boing Boing post...

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<td width="100%" style="font:9pt Verdana,Arial,Sans-serif;vertical-align:top;"><span style="color:#808080;font-variant:small-caps;">Www.Boingboing.Net</span> - Well, it's coming up to the holidays and I've started to make my list and fill it in. As a starting point, I went through all the books and DVDs and gadgets I'd reviewed on Boing Boing since last November and looked at what had been the best-sellers among BB's readership, figuring you folks have pretty good taste! As I was taking a walk down old review lane, I realized that many of you would probably be interested in seeing these lists too, so I've turned them into a series of blog-posts that I'll be sticking up, one per day, for the next week or so. Today I'm starting with kids' media and media about kids and child-rearing. Later this week, I'll do fiction, nonfiction, comics and graphic novels, CDs and DVDs and gadgets and everything else, one a day. Hope this helps you with your holiday shopping as much as it's helped me with mine! Baby's First Mythos (C.J. Henderson) Cthluhoid picture book Original Boing Boing post Invention of Hugo Cabret (Brian Selznik) Award-winning steampunk graphic novel for kids Original Boing Boing post Good as Lily (Derek Kirk Kim) Ass-kicking girl-positive graphic novel for young readers Original Boing Boing post The Plain Janes (Cecil Castellucci, Jim Rugg) Funny, spirited little story about a gang of girls named Jane at a strait-laced high-school, rejected by the mainstream, and their art adventures. Original Boing Boing post Little Brother (Cory Doctorow) My bestselling young adult novel about kids who hack for freedom Original Boing Boing post The Starry Rift (Jonathan Strahan) Science fiction anthology for teens Original Boing Boing post St. Trinian's: The Entire Appalling Business (Ronald Searle) Ronald Searle's original dark, weird and hilarious St Trinian's comics Original Boing Boing post The Adventures of Johnny Bunko: The Last Career Guide You'll Ever Need (Daniel H. Pink) Optimistic and iconoclastic career guide in manga form Original Boing Boing post Alice in Wonderland Tattoos Alice in Wonderland temporary tatts Original Boing Boing post Freakazoid - The Complete First Season The best TV cartoon since the Max Fleischer era, on DVD Original Boing Boing post Boy Proof (Cecil Castellucci) A compassionate young adult novel about a weird, smart, angry girl Original Boing Boing post Cycler (Lauren McLaughlin) Smart YA novel about sex and sexuality Original Boing Boing post My Mother Wears Combat Boots: A Parenting Guide for the Rest of Us (Jessica Mills) Kick-ass punk-parenting book Original Boing Boing post How to Ditch Your Fairy (Justine Larbalestier) Hilarious kids book about the problems with fairies Original Boing Boing post Nation (Terry Pratchett) Moving and sweet young adult novel about science, superstition and decency Original Boing Boing post ABC3D (Marion Bataille) The best pop-up book in the world Original Boing Boing post The Baby Sleep Solution: A Proven Program to Teach Your Baby to Sleep Twelve Hours a Night (Suzy Giordano) The best parenting book I've read Original Boing Boing post How Children Learn (John Holt) Cllassic of human, kid-centered learning Original Boing Boing post The Graveyard Book (Neil Gaiman) Spooky, magical retelling of The Jungle Book in a graveyard Original Boing Boing post How Children Fail (John Holt) Angry lessons from failures to teach Original Boing Boing post 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: A Pop-Up Book (Sam Ita) The paper kraken wakes Original Boing Boing post Alphabutt (Kimya Dawson) Weird, jangly, hilarious awesome music for kids Original Boing Boing post Zoe's Tale (John Scalzi) Scalzi's smart-ass young-adult sf thriller Original Boing Boing post Free to Be...You and Me (The 35th Anniversary Edition, Hardcover) (Marlo Thomas and Friends) The book every kid needs Original Boing Boing post...

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<title>{EUROPE &gt; NEWS AND MEDIA} - Is 41 too late to become a father?</title>
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<summary type="text/plain">Last night I ate a large bowl of beetroot from my garden. This morning my urine is the colour of rosé wine and I'm worried that my semen might have taken on a similar hue. The colour of my semen is a concern because someone will be studying it in a short while. I'm considering this while sitting in the top floor 'specimen room' of the London Fertility Centre on Harley Street. Later on, when I mention where I've been to friends and colleagues they seem really interested in the interior design details of a room set aside for masturbation. So if you're planning one, here's some decorating tips. The room is on the second floor and it has two notices on its door: one saying 'Quiet Please' (in case passers-by are inclined to cheer or clap, I guess) and a sliding sign with 'Vacant/Occupied' options - I've opted for 'occupied' although I'm not, so far. Inside, the room is about 6ft x 12ft and painted in various pale non-colours. It is equipped with an ensuite shower, light-green vinyl-covered daybed and a fudge-coloured bathroom suite (including bidet). There is a sash window - which isn't overlooked. The atmosphere is more Carry On than Casualty. On one side of the sink there is a small empty plastic beaker (with my name on it). On the other a DVD player, screen and a remote. I consider all the hands that have touched the remote. Using one of the many tissues provided I pick it up and inspect it; it appears to be clean. The television doesn't show any of the normal channels.I'm here because I'm concerned about my sperm. Not that they might be beetroot coloured, but rather that they might not be fit for purpose. That they might not be as athletic, plentiful and perfectly formed as they need to be. I'm 41 and childless, and although I'm not involved in a 'trying-for-a-baby'-type scenario I've been reading the papers and the news for fortysomething men and their sperm isn't great.'Scientists warn that biological clock affects male fertility' warned the Guardian in July - well, scientists are always saying stuff aren't they? 'Risk of miscarriage soars once the father reaches 35' (Daily Mail) - that sounds worrying. 'Blokes going infertile aged 35' (Sun). Must have sex, pronto! The papers were all reporting in their own particular ways on the research of Dr Stephanie Belloc from the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction in Paris. Dr Belloc had studied the records of 12,000 couples who visited her clinic and separated out the influence of the mother's and father's ages on the chances of conception and miscarriage. Belloc and her team found that women whose partners were 35 or older had more miscarriages than those who were with younger men, regardless of their own age. The risk of miscarriage was on average 16.7 per cent when the men were aged 30-34, but it doubled to 33 per cent in men over 40. Moreover, her research showed that men's ages also affected pregnancy rates, which were lower in the over-40s. As the Mirror summed it up, 'Over-35? You're a dad loss.'I can remember ridiculing my own father for being 40, so how did I end up childless at 41? To start with I went to university and became middle-class. It seems only people from council estates and people who own estates have kids young these days. The middle classes are too busy in their twenties establishing careers, climbing the property ladder and going on snowboarding holidays.Although lack of one doesn't stop some people, I feel you need to be in a reasonably stable relationship before having kids - and I haven't been in one of those of late. But of late, many of my peers are reproducing, some are already on to their third. Even the ones who had drug problems are conceiving and, meanwhile, gay friends are cutting breeding deals with lesbians. I wonder if time is running out.It's an easy thought to have because I can't act on it, but sometimes I think I should have had some children in my twenties. I had more energy and didn't have many material comforts to give up or much of a lifestyle to compromise. I'd be packing them off to university around now, thumbing sports car brochures and thinking about buying a peach farm in Spain. Frankly, I can't remember that much of my twenties, so maybe it would have put this decade of void to good use. I don't recall any of my peers having kids; maybe it was a hangover from the Aids era - people seemed pretty conscientious about birth control, there were no 'accidents'. So now, at 41, I wonder if I've skipped the whole kids thing. I seem to be developing the hobbies and pastimes of a senior citizen - golf, growing beetroot, buffing my classic car. But the reality is I've got 19 years until I qualify for my bus pass - which is just enough time to raise at least one human being. So should I be worried about or believe in the 'male biological clock'?Back in 2001, Professor Dolores Malaspina, of Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, concluded that men aged 50 or over are three times more likely to father a child with schizophrenia compared with men of 25 or under. Four years later, epidemiologist Jorn Olsen at the University of California, Los Angeles, found a fourfold rise in Down's syndrome among babies born to men aged 50 and older. And in 2006 scientists from the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College, London and Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York found that children born to fathers aged 40 and over were nearly six times more likely to suffer from autism than those with a father under 30. Meanwhile, other researchers have suggested patterns between older fathers and increased chances of bipolar disorder, dwarfism and Apert syndrome - whose unlucky sufferers have a malformed skull and webbed hands and feet, among other disfigurements. A report in 2006 even suggested 'a modest effect of advanced paternal age on the Apgar score'. And after finding out what an Apgar score is I now know this to be less than good. The evidence appeared to be stacking up.Yet are these findings as scary as they sound? Dr Belloc's sample was made up entirely of couples presenting for infertility treatment. 'It is not evident that we can extrapolate these conclusions to a fertile population,' she tells me. And many of the incidences in the other studies are minute; so a fivefold increase is still only a five-times-minute chance of some disorder or other. Moreover, these studies only show patterns, rather than direct causal links - finding a direct link would probably require examining DNA at a detail beyond most researchers' budgets or ability. Some commentators have speculated that if a man first becomes a father in his forties or fifties that may indicate he has had trouble forming relationships earlier in his life, which may mean in a mild, undiagnosed kind of way he's a carrier of problems like bipolar disorder or autism which have a genetic element - so his paternal age is irrelevant to the outcome.Which isn't exactly comforting, but it suggests the 'male biological clock' doesn't tick as loudly as the headlines suggest. For Dr Allan Pacey, senior lecturer in andrology at Sheffield University, the clock is nothing more than ageing. As you grow older, you lose a bit of hair and experience the odd 'senior moment', so you shouldn't be surprised if your sperm isn't as sprightly as it used to be. 'In terms of numbers it's the same, but what tends to happen is that the sperm isn't as good.' If their biological clock is ticking, men are pretty deaf to it. The age of fatherhood is creeping up: the latest figures from the Office of National Statistics show that the average age of married fathers rose from 29.1 in 1971 to 34.1 in 2003 - getting close to the 35-year point where some of the problems are alleged to kick in. I ask Dr Pacey if this is a worrying trend. 'The problem is couples are waiting until they are older. To wait until the woman is approaching 40 is the wrong time to be starting, and that will be exasperated by any problem that he has due to ageing.' Dr Pacey's advice to me is not to hang about: 'You will be more successful having a child naturally at an earlier age; it will be cheaper for you and it will be much more fun than waiting until you're well into your forties, going to an infertility clinic and having it done artificially. What we're finding are lots of people attending infertility clinics in their forties who would have succeeded in getting pregnant at 25. Rather than waiting for technology to sort it out, if you are in a position to have children early, then go ahead and do it.'What Dr Pacey and others are quick to point out is that there's definitely a female biological clock. Women are born with a finite number of eggs and at some point they will run out. According to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA), a woman is half as fertile at 35 as she is at 25, and half as fertile again at 40.You might be thinking, 'Why is he bothering to spell that out, everyone knows that?' Well, before researching this piece I was only vaguely aware of those blunt facts, but, more surprisingly, when chatting to single and married thirtysomething childless women about this article they start saying things like: 'My gran had my mother at 45,' 'What about Madonna?' or, most biologically incorrect: 'I'm not ready yet.' They seemed about as informed as I was. 'With the Madonnas and all the rest who seem to have children quite naturally, no one mentions IVF or egg donors, and celebrity miscarriages don't make the pages of Heat,' says Dr Pacey. 'This silence reinforces the myth that these miracle births happen, when often there's a medical intervention.' And IVF isn't a safety net: according to the HFEA, IVF has only a 12 per cent success rate for a 40-year-old woman. And it will cost you: the NHS, on the advice of the National Institute of Clinical Excellence (Nice), doesn't fund IVF for women over 40 because of the low success rate. The average cost of a cycle is £4,000-£8,000. Is it chauvinistic to question the sense of delaying having kids for the sake of a career if you're going to spend most of the extra income on fertility treatment?However it's not only career building that is nudging the maternal age up; those commitment-phobic, nappy-changing-averse partners make a contribution, too - people like me. One could argue that this male biological clock business is providing men with another excuse to avoid having kids - we move from 'I'm not ready yet' to 'It's too dangerous now' in the time it takes to power up a Nintendo Wii. Or maybe you could blame the introduction of Viagra - which has engendered the idea that men can stay virile forever, so why rush? - as most men think the difference between virility and fertility is latex thin. But if you're looking for something that's really obscuring the hands of the male biological clock, look to famous people. When it comes to fertility, biology tells us one thing, but celebrities tell us another: ie, no matter how superannuated you are, getting your girlfriend up the duff is child's play. Middle-aged famous fellas love a baby shower. Dr Pacey isn't impressed: 'The John Humphrys thing does distort the picture. There'll be lots of men who will read this piece and say, "I was 50 and I had a child," and it's really difficult to argue against that because they do, but statistically you are less likely to succeed and more likely to have problems. For the individual who has been successful it will seem stupid that I'm saying that, but for every 50-year-old father there'll be 10 times more thinking, "I had a lot of problems."'Even if you, your sperm and your wife from a younger generation manage to buck the stats, there are other non-bio reasons against fathering kids late. Most obviously you might die before they graduate - if you're 65 now, on average you'll die at 82 - although for how much longer you will be capable of having a kick-about, helping them with their homework or visiting the lavatory without their assistance isn't recorded. And while it's embarrassing to be mistaken occasionally for their grandfather, it's thoughtless not to meet your grandchildren.Am I being too hard on the older dad? I call Charlie Lewis, professor of family and developmental psychology at Lancaster University. Should we give middle-aged men the snip? 'Some men claim to be better fathers when older, but I don't see this in the majority of men. I find them saying, "I'm clapped out, I've done my bit at work, I've provided a house and comfortable living, now let me vegetate." They think it's their right to sit in front of the telly and not take part in any interaction. It's almost autistic. Older fathers tend to do less of the stereotypical activities than younger fathers do, less childcare and less kicking footballs - for fear of snapping a tendon. They think, "I'm much too old for this."'Surprisingly, Lewis is more relaxed about the dying thing. 'I don't want to put fathers down, but if you look at the majority of evidence on loss, it does point to losing a mother before 11 being more predictive of later social/psycho disorders than losing a father. These effects are most often caused by the child absorbing the surviving partner's grief. So if the mother can manage the grieving process, the predictable death of an older father needn't be a life-changing trauma.'Dads dead or alive, we should be more concerned about the kids, says Lewis. 'You do get studies that say old dads feel closer to their kids, but I'm not aware that kids feel closer to their older fathers.'I wonder if I would become one of these dead-beat, distant dads. I like to think not. I don't quite understand how that could happen. What kind of an individual would tune into a Top Gear repeat rather than read to their child or even relieve them of a shitty nappy? Maybe I'm being naive. I talk to some dad friends.Gary, 45, first became a father when he was 23, but then remarried and had three more children, the oldest of whom is five. Would he like to compare and contrast? 'Obviously becoming a father young was a bit of a shock, it made me grow up quickly. I'm not sure at that age if you're responsible enough to look after yourself let alone a little child.' So how is it second time around: does older dad mean better dad? 'When my second wife first wanted children I did have slight panic attacks, because I had this memory of it being a total whirlwind, but this time it's completely different, it doesn't seem half as stressful as when I was in my twenties.' Gary says this isn't just because he's been a parent before - 'No, it's mainly because I'm more grown-up, more patient, more financially settled. I'm far more chilled out this time around.' So you'd advise an older option? 'It's better to have children at a later date, but myself, I'm worried about getting older. First time round I was one of the youngest parents in the playground; now I'm one of the oldest. My youngest is 10 months, so I'll be at retirement or grandfather age in her late teens. You hope to be running around in the park, doing those things that children want you to do and provide as parents. Hopefully I'll be one of those who manages it, but I will have to wait and see.'The energy issue: I've heard this raised before. People talk about the nuclear-like amounts of energy you need to bring up a child, but I suspect it's similar to the stamina needed to squire a girlfriend half your age. Because down-ageing your just-broody girlfriends each time they start describing a new frock as 'a bit maternity' is really the only alternative to producing offspring.Jonathan, 49, had two sons when he was 23 and 27. He says the early months were 'terrifying', and both he and his girlfriend had to abandon their career plans: 'Our embryonic lives together as a couple were entirely transformed into a fully fledged proper adult relationship. And we didn't have much money - I even used to scavenge skips for firewood.' But for all the foraging the relatively small age difference means he's closer to his kids. 'We can go to the cinema together, appreciate some of the same music, go out for a beer, they call me by my first name.' He got divorced and, a couple of years ago, he remarried. He isn't keen to become a father again: 'I'm interested in the relationship with my wife rather than with anyone else. The relationship I have with my children is established, I like the marriage and lifestyle we have, and because of my previous experience I can see how that could be compromised.' What is his advice for someone like me, thinking of becoming a father in my forties? 'I think, you're not going to get a lot of sleep. And by the time you're my age, when you take your kids to a restaurant they'll be running around banging their heads, stealing food, whereas I'll be discussing the amount of oak in the Sauvignon with mine. I'd think about that quite carefully.'So that's what I should have done. Bred early. Guess there's no point in crying over spilled, er, milk.The trouble with this when-to-procreate business is it's personal. Apologies, it's not much of an insight but everyone is different. They earn lots of money, earn not much money, like kids, don't like kids, have live-in help, are still looking for The One, are given a babies-or-else ultimatum by their partners,  had a shit childhood themselves, don't feel the need to have babies to preserve their relationship, are worried they'll pass on a condition, feel they've established their career, don't want a career, haven't been to Patagonia yet - the list of caveats and factors that make it the 'right time' for someone is as long as the waiting list for a Doctor Who Dalek Electronic Voice Changer Helmet.So, to borrow a phrase from a Dragon: 'Let me tell you where I am.' For me, I think 45 is the cut-off. For biological reasons - you can't donate sperm past 45 - there must be something in those scary reports. And financially, I'd like to retire on time, if indeed I'm lucky enough to still have a career by then. Which doesn't give me much time, I guess, to meet someone, fall in love, imagine being with this person for the foreseeable future - if that's not over-romantic, delusional, too-much-like-a-John-Cusack-movie. But I'm getting ahead of myself: maybe I'm firing blanks anyhow.For the 20-minute wait while my sperm is being tested, I chat to Dr Magdy Asaad, clinical director, in his office about the problems with semen. Mine is being tested for volume, viscosity, concentration, mobility, morphology and antibodies. Dr Asaad uses the gold standard WHO criteria which are surprisingly generous - only 50 per cent of your sperm needs to move, for instance, and you're allowed up to 80 per cent with an abnormal form, such as funny-shaped heads or two tails, 'because 20 per cent of 20m is considered enough, it's a lot of sperm,' Dr Asaad chuckles.I'm curious: do anxious men often pop in on their own for a lunchtime sperm test, check everything is wriggling right? 'It's not common, but when men present on their own, it's normally a problem with their ability to have an erection or ejaculation.'Well as you can tell I have no problems in that area, I say.'But some men don't like to give a sample,' he continues. 'They find all kinds of excuses: maybe they are worried it will not be good, or that it's an artificial thing, to press a button [is he talking about the remote control?]. I don't know how it was for you, I'm not asking. Sometimes a gentleman will have difficulty preparing manually.' Unbelievable.The walls and desk of the doctor's office are smothered with framed photographs of beaming parents with their children - patients he's helped to fashion a bundle of joy for over the years. In your experience, I ask Dr Asaad, when is a good age for procreation? 'You're mature enough by your late twenties, early thirties, responsible enough, you probably have a job, a partner. I don't think it's a very serious problem waiting to 40-45, but beyond that you have to think about time with the child.'With that, Dr Asaad prints off a piece of A4 containing all my sperm's vital statistics. 'It's a good sample,' he says, 'so you're all right.' I'll spare you the details.On one hand this is a relief, but on the other it means I've no alibi, no excuses, I'm ready to breed. All I need now is a woman.Paternity frights: ten bus-pass fathersJulio Iglesias Sr, a dad at 89Nobody could accuse the gynaecologist father of Julio and grandfather of Enrique, and who was head of a Madrid family-planning unit, of not taking his work home with him. After having two children with his first wife, he remarried and, at 89, when his wife was 40, produced another son. Barely out of the maternity ward, Ronna signed up for IVF and within a few months was pregnant again. Tragically, filling a test-tube turned out to be the former Franco supporter's last significant act: two months later he was muerto. His daughter Ruth was born posthumously seven months later in July 2006. Dad-speak: 'At my age, a child is marvellous. I felt just like Abraham. It was an act of generosity towards her [Ronna]. I leave her part of my blood, of my life.'Saul Bellow, a dad at 84The Nobel Prize-winning novelist had four children: three sons with his first three wives, and a daughter, Naomi-Rose, with his 41-year-old fifth wife. He died when she was five, in 2005. Writing two months after his death, one of his sons, Adam, whose mother Bellow left when he was two, recalled 'a fond but highly attenuated bond with a frequently distracted, often absent and much older father.'Dad-speak: 'Well, my wife won't be lonely when I die. She'll have somebody'Anthony Quinn, a dad at 81The star of more than 100 movies, including Zorba the Greek and The Guns of Navarone, enjoyed procreating. He had five children with his first wife Katherine, the daughter of Cecil B DeMille, three with the second, then at the age of 81, he got his 29-year-old secretary pregnant, married her and had two children. The double Oscar-winner also squeezed in three more children with women he wasn't married to before he died in 2001.  Dad-speak: [of his penultimate child] 'She's beautiful, she looks like me'Rupert Murdoch, a dad at 72The Australian-American global media mogul (real first name Keith) has been married three times. He produced one child with the first and three (Elizabeth, James and Lachlan) during a 31-year marriage to the second. Seventeen days after the $1.2bn divorce, the Dirty Digger married former photographic model Deng Wendi (she transposed her names post nuptials), a 30-year-old executive at his Asian Star TV channel. They have two children, the most recent in July 2003. Dad-speak: 'All my children will be treated equally'Des O'Connor, a dad at 72The former Countdown host has been married four times and has four grown-up daughters. His current wife, the 37-years-younger singer/dancer Jodie, who he met in 1990, when they were doing panto together, provided him with a son in September 2004. Dad-speak: 'When the baby was born the odd comment was made about my age, but I plan to play football with Adam'Luciano Pavarotti, a dad at 67The well-upholstered tenor had three daughters with his first wife, who he stayed with for 35 years. Then, in 1996, he left her for his secretary, Nicoletta - 36 years his junior. In 2003 she gave birth to twins, another daughter and a son; tragically, the latter was stillborn. 'The King of the High Cs' died after a long battle with pancreatic cancer just before his youngest daughter's fifth birthday. Dad-speak: 'I never imagined that at this time of life I would have another child. But I met Nicoletta, and she is young'Warren Beatty, a dad at 62After years of womanising (Natalie Wood, Julie Christie, Isabelle Adjani, Vivien Leigh, Cher, Madonna, Carly Simon, Barbra Streisand, Britt Ekland, Diane Keaton, Mary Tyler Moore, Janice Dickinson and Faye Dunaway to name a few) he plumped for Annette Bening. They've had four kids, the latest of whom was born in 2000. I think we can assume fatherhood has mellowed Warren. Dad-speak: 'We're fortunate to have a big house'Rod Stewart, a dad at 60The rooster-haired senior citizen has been breeding for 41 years. He's had seven children by five different women, although modest Rod often downgrades to six offspring, passing over his first, who was put up for adoption: 'You can count her if you want. I try not to,' he once said. Penny Lancaster provided him with his sixth/seventh, Alastair, in 2005. According to his brother Don, Rod prefers to leave Alastair's nappy-changing and feeding to the hired help. Unperturbed, 37-year-old Penny has dropped heavy hints she'd like a second with the 63-year-old Celtic fan.Dad-speak: 'I didn't see my oldest kids a lot as they were growing up. I don't feel any guilt, but maybe having a family is something Rachel and Alana and I should have thought about more before we had children'Michael Douglas, a dad at 58The Basic Instinct star had a son, Cameron, with Diandra Luker, his wife of 23 years. She divorced him in 2000. Later that year he ran into Catherine Zeta Jones and seduced her with the admirably direct and honest line: 'I'd like to father your children.' True to his word he hasn't let the 25-year age gap stop him from impregnating her twice, when he was 55 and 58.Dad-speak: 'It's not that I didn't enjoy it the first time, but I just didn't have the time. I'm not the only father who has felt guilty about the lack of time spent with his kids. So now I have a situation where I can savour it with my younger children. And you can see the effect of hanging out with them for three years and the security they have. And for me, it's a ball. Movie roles come and go and it's a finite period of time. This is sort of eternal'John Humphrys, a dad at 56The Welsh son of a hairdresser and French polisher has been married twice. The first wife provided the Mastermind host with two children, now both grown up. He remarried in 1987 and, after a reverse vasectomy, the Today programme interrogator became a proud father to a son, Owen. Dad speak: 'I thought I might resent this little kid for buggering up my life, as it were. The opposite has happened to me because of him. He's the most wonderful thing that's ever happened to me'FamilyHealth &amp; wellbeingHealthguardian.co.uk © Guardian News &amp; Media Limited 2008 | Use of this content is subject to our Terms &amp; Conditions | More Feeds</summary>
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<td width="100%" style="font:9pt Verdana,Arial,Sans-serif;vertical-align:top;"><span style="color:#808080;font-variant:small-caps;">Www.Guardian.Co.Uk</span> - Last night I ate a large bowl of beetroot from my garden. This morning my urine is the colour of rosé wine and I'm worried that my semen might have taken on a similar hue. The colour of my semen is a concern because someone will be studying it in a short while. I'm considering this while sitting in the top floor 'specimen room' of the London Fertility Centre on Harley Street. Later on, when I mention where I've been to friends and colleagues they seem really interested in the interior design details of a room set aside for masturbation. So if you're planning one, here's some decorating tips. The room is on the second floor and it has two notices on its door: one saying 'Quiet Please' (in case passers-by are inclined to cheer or clap, I guess) and a sliding sign with 'Vacant/Occupied' options - I've opted for 'occupied' although I'm not, so far. Inside, the room is about 6ft x 12ft and painted in various pale non-colours. It is equipped with an ensuite shower, light-green vinyl-covered daybed and a fudge-coloured bathroom suite (including bidet). There is a sash window - which isn't overlooked. The atmosphere is more Carry On than Casualty. On one side of the sink there is a small empty plastic beaker (with my name on it). On the other a DVD player, screen and a remote. I consider all the hands that have touched the remote. Using one of the many tissues provided I pick it up and inspect it; it appears to be clean. The television doesn't show any of the normal channels.I'm here because I'm concerned about my sperm. Not that they might be beetroot coloured, but rather that they might not be fit for purpose. That they might not be as athletic, plentiful and perfectly formed as they need to be. I'm 41 and childless, and although I'm not involved in a 'trying-for-a-baby'-type scenario I've been reading the papers and the news for fortysomething men and their sperm isn't great.'Scientists warn that biological clock affects male fertility' warned the Guardian in July - well, scientists are always saying stuff aren't they? 'Risk of miscarriage soars once the father reaches 35' (Daily Mail) - that sounds worrying. 'Blokes going infertile aged 35' (Sun). Must have sex, pronto! The papers were all reporting in their own particular ways on the research of Dr Stephanie Belloc from the Eylau Centre for Assisted Reproduction in Paris. Dr Belloc had studied the records of 12,000 couples who visited her clinic and separated out the influence of the mother's and father's ages on the chances of conception and miscarriage. Belloc and her team found that women whose partners were 35 or older had more miscarriages than those who were with younger men, regardless of their own age. The risk of miscarriage was on average 16.7 per cent when the men were aged 30-34, but it doubled to 33 per cent in men over 40. Moreover, her research showed that men's ages also affected pregnancy rates, which were lower in the over-40s. As the Mirror summed it up, 'Over-35? You're a dad loss.'I can remember ridiculing my own father for being 40, so how did I end up childless at 41? To start with I went to university and became middle-class. It seems only people from council estates and people who own estates have kids young these days. The middle classes are too busy in their twenties establishing careers, climbing the property ladder and going on snowboarding holidays.Although lack of one doesn't stop some people, I feel you need to be in a reasonably stable relationship before having kids - and I haven't been in one of those of late. But of late, many of my peers are reproducing, some are already on to their third. Even the ones who had drug problems are conceiving and, meanwhile, gay friends are cutting breeding deals with lesbians. I wonder if time is running out.It's an easy thought to have because I can't act on it, but sometimes I think I should have had some children in my twenties. I had more energy and didn't have many material comforts to give up or much of a lifestyle to compromise. I'd be packing them off to university around now, thumbing sports car brochures and thinking about buying a peach farm in Spain. Frankly, I can't remember that much of my twenties, so maybe it would have put this decade of void to good use. I don't recall any of my peers having kids; maybe it was a hangover from the Aids era - people seemed pretty conscientious about birth control, there were no 'accidents'. So now, at 41, I wonder if I've skipped the whole kids thing. I seem to be developing the hobbies and pastimes of a senior citizen - golf, growing beetroot, buffing my classic car. But the reality is I've got 19 years until I qualify for my bus pass - which is just enough time to raise at least one human being. So should I be worried about or believe in the 'male biological clock'?Back in 2001, Professor Dolores Malaspina, of Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, concluded that men aged 50 or over are three times more likely to father a child with schizophrenia compared with men of 25 or under. Four years later, epidemiologist Jorn Olsen at the University of California, Los Angeles, found a fourfold rise in Down's syndrome among babies born to men aged 50 and older. And in 2006 scientists from the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College, London and Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York found that children born to fathers aged 40 and over were nearly six times more likely to suffer from autism than those with a father under 30. Meanwhile, other researchers have suggested patterns between older fathers and increased chances of bipolar disorder, dwarfism and Apert syndrome - whose unlucky sufferers have a malformed skull and webbed hands and feet, among other disfigurements. A report in 2006 even suggested 'a modest effect of advanced paternal age on the Apgar score'. And after finding out what an Apgar score is I now know this to be less than good. The evidence appeared to be stacking up.Yet are these findings as scary as they sound? Dr Belloc's sample was made up entirely of couples presenting for infertility treatment. 'It is not evident that we can extrapolate these conclusions to a fertile population,' she tells me. And many of the incidences in the other studies are minute; so a fivefold increase is still only a five-times-minute chance of some disorder or other. Moreover, these studies only show patterns, rather than direct causal links - finding a direct link would probably require examining DNA at a detail beyond most researchers' budgets or ability. Some commentators have speculated that if a man first becomes a father in his forties or fifties that may indicate he has had trouble forming relationships earlier in his life, which may mean in a mild, undiagnosed kind of way he's a carrier of problems like bipolar disorder or autism which have a genetic element - so his paternal age is irrelevant to the outcome.Which isn't exactly comforting, but it suggests the 'male biological clock' doesn't tick as loudly as the headlines suggest. For Dr Allan Pacey, senior lecturer in andrology at Sheffield University, the clock is nothing more than ageing. As you grow older, you lose a bit of hair and experience the odd 'senior moment', so you shouldn't be surprised if your sperm isn't as sprightly as it used to be. 'In terms of numbers it's the same, but what tends to happen is that the sperm isn't as good.' If their biological clock is ticking, men are pretty deaf to it. The age of fatherhood is creeping up: the latest figures from the Office of National Statistics show that the average age of married fathers rose from 29.1 in 1971 to 34.1 in 2003 - getting close to the 35-year point where some of the problems are alleged to kick in. I ask Dr Pacey if this is a worrying trend. 'The problem is couples are waiting until they are older. To wait until the woman is approaching 40 is the wrong time to be starting, and that will be exasperated by any problem that he has due to ageing.' Dr Pacey's advice to me is not to hang about: 'You will be more successful having a child naturally at an earlier age; it will be cheaper for you and it will be much more fun than waiting until you're well into your forties, going to an infertility clinic and having it done artificially. What we're finding are lots of people attending infertility clinics in their forties who would have succeeded in getting pregnant at 25. Rather than waiting for technology to sort it out, if you are in a position to have children early, then go ahead and do it.'What Dr Pacey and others are quick to point out is that there's definitely a female biological clock. Women are born with a finite number of eggs and at some point they will run out. According to the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA), a woman is half as fertile at 35 as she is at 25, and half as fertile again at 40.You might be thinking, 'Why is he bothering to spell that out, everyone knows that?' Well, before researching this piece I was only vaguely aware of those blunt facts, but, more surprisingly, when chatting to single and married thirtysomething childless women about this article they start saying things like: 'My gran had my mother at 45,' 'What about Madonna?' or, most biologically incorrect: 'I'm not ready yet.' They seemed about as informed as I was. 'With the Madonnas and all the rest who seem to have children quite naturally, no one mentions IVF or egg donors, and celebrity miscarriages don't make the pages of Heat,' says Dr Pacey. 'This silence reinforces the myth that these miracle births happen, when often there's a medical intervention.' And IVF isn't a safety net: according to the HFEA, IVF has only a 12 per cent success rate for a 40-year-old woman. And it will cost you: the NHS, on the advice of the National Institute of Clinical Excellence (Nice), doesn't fund IVF for women over 40 because of the low success rate. The average cost of a cycle is £4,000-£8,000. Is it chauvinistic to question the sense of delaying having kids for the sake of a career if you're going to spend most of the extra income on fertility treatment?However it's not only career building that is nudging the maternal age up; those commitment-phobic, nappy-changing-averse partners make a contribution, too - people like me. One could argue that this male biological clock business is providing men with another excuse to avoid having kids - we move from 'I'm not ready yet' to 'It's too dangerous now' in the time it takes to power up a Nintendo Wii. Or maybe you could blame the introduction of Viagra - which has engendered the idea that men can stay virile forever, so why rush? - as most men think the difference between virility and fertility is latex thin. But if you're looking for something that's really obscuring the hands of the male biological clock, look to famous people. When it comes to fertility, biology tells us one thing, but celebrities tell us another: ie, no matter how superannuated you are, getting your girlfriend up the duff is child's play. Middle-aged famous fellas love a baby shower. Dr Pacey isn't impressed: 'The John Humphrys thing does distort the picture. There'll be lots of men who will read this piece and say, "I was 50 and I had a child," and it's really difficult to argue against that because they do, but statistically you are less likely to succeed and more likely to have problems. For the individual who has been successful it will seem stupid that I'm saying that, but for every 50-year-old father there'll be 10 times more thinking, "I had a lot of problems."'Even if you, your sperm and your wife from a younger generation manage to buck the stats, there are other non-bio reasons against fathering kids late. Most obviously you might die before they graduate - if you're 65 now, on average you'll die at 82 - although for how much longer you will be capable of having a kick-about, helping them with their homework or visiting the lavatory without their assistance isn't recorded. And while it's embarrassing to be mistaken occasionally for their grandfather, it's thoughtless not to meet your grandchildren.Am I being too hard on the older dad? I call Charlie Lewis, professor of family and developmental psychology at Lancaster University. Should we give middle-aged men the snip? 'Some men claim to be better fathers when older, but I don't see this in the majority of men. I find them saying, "I'm clapped out, I've done my bit at work, I've provided a house and comfortable living, now let me vegetate." They think it's their right to sit in front of the telly and not take part in any interaction. It's almost autistic. Older fathers tend to do less of the stereotypical activities than younger fathers do, less childcare and less kicking footballs - for fear of snapping a tendon. They think, "I'm much too old for this."'Surprisingly, Lewis is more relaxed about the dying thing. 'I don't want to put fathers down, but if you look at the majority of evidence on loss, it does point to losing a mother before 11 being more predictive of later social/psycho disorders than losing a father. These effects are most often caused by the child absorbing the surviving partner's grief. So if the mother can manage the grieving process, the predictable death of an older father needn't be a life-changing trauma.'Dads dead or alive, we should be more concerned about the kids, says Lewis. 'You do get studies that say old dads feel closer to their kids, but I'm not aware that kids feel closer to their older fathers.'I wonder if I would become one of these dead-beat, distant dads. I like to think not. I don't quite understand how that could happen. What kind of an individual would tune into a Top Gear repeat rather than read to their child or even relieve them of a shitty nappy? Maybe I'm being naive. I talk to some dad friends.Gary, 45, first became a father when he was 23, but then remarried and had three more children, the oldest of whom is five. Would he like to compare and contrast? 'Obviously becoming a father young was a bit of a shock, it made me grow up quickly. I'm not sure at that age if you're responsible enough to look after yourself let alone a little child.' So how is it second time around: does older dad mean better dad? 'When my second wife first wanted children I did have slight panic attacks, because I had this memory of it being a total whirlwind, but this time it's completely different, it doesn't seem half as stressful as when I was in my twenties.' Gary says this isn't just because he's been a parent before - 'No, it's mainly because I'm more grown-up, more patient, more financially settled. I'm far more chilled out this time around.' So you'd advise an older option? 'It's better to have children at a later date, but myself, I'm worried about getting older. First time round I was one of the youngest parents in the playground; now I'm one of the oldest. My youngest is 10 months, so I'll be at retirement or grandfather age in her late teens. You hope to be running around in the park, doing those things that children want you to do and provide as parents. Hopefully I'll be one of those who manages it, but I will have to wait and see.'The energy issue: I've heard this raised before. People talk about the nuclear-like amounts of energy you need to bring up a child, but I suspect it's similar to the stamina needed to squire a girlfriend half your age. Because down-ageing your just-broody girlfriends each time they start describing a new frock as 'a bit maternity' is really the only alternative to producing offspring.Jonathan, 49, had two sons when he was 23 and 27. He says the early months were 'terrifying', and both he and his girlfriend had to abandon their career plans: 'Our embryonic lives together as a couple were entirely transformed into a fully fledged proper adult relationship. And we didn't have much money - I even used to scavenge skips for firewood.' But for all the foraging the relatively small age difference means he's closer to his kids. 'We can go to the cinema together, appreciate some of the same music, go out for a beer, they call me by my first name.' He got divorced and, a couple of years ago, he remarried. He isn't keen to become a father again: 'I'm interested in the relationship with my wife rather than with anyone else. The relationship I have with my children is established, I like the marriage and lifestyle we have, and because of my previous experience I can see how that could be compromised.' What is his advice for someone like me, thinking of becoming a father in my forties? 'I think, you're not going to get a lot of sleep. And by the time you're my age, when you take your kids to a restaurant they'll be running around banging their heads, stealing food, whereas I'll be discussing the amount of oak in the Sauvignon with mine. I'd think about that quite carefully.'So that's what I should have done. Bred early. Guess there's no point in crying over spilled, er, milk.The trouble with this when-to-procreate business is it's personal. Apologies, it's not much of an insight but everyone is different. They earn lots of money, earn not much money, like kids, don't like kids, have live-in help, are still looking for The One, are given a babies-or-else ultimatum by their partners,  had a shit childhood themselves, don't feel the need to have babies to preserve their relationship, are worried they'll pass on a condition, feel they've established their career, don't want a career, haven't been to Patagonia yet - the list of caveats and factors that make it the 'right time' for someone is as long as the waiting list for a Doctor Who Dalek Electronic Voice Changer Helmet.So, to borrow a phrase from a Dragon: 'Let me tell you where I am.' For me, I think 45 is the cut-off. For biological reasons - you can't donate sperm past 45 - there must be something in those scary reports. And financially, I'd like to retire on time, if indeed I'm lucky enough to still have a career by then. Which doesn't give me much time, I guess, to meet someone, fall in love, imagine being with this person for the foreseeable future - if that's not over-romantic, delusional, too-much-like-a-John-Cusack-movie. But I'm getting ahead of myself: maybe I'm firing blanks anyhow.For the 20-minute wait while my sperm is being tested, I chat to Dr Magdy Asaad, clinical director, in his office about the problems with semen. Mine is being tested for volume, viscosity, concentration, mobility, morphology and antibodies. Dr Asaad uses the gold standard WHO criteria which are surprisingly generous - only 50 per cent of your sperm needs to move, for instance, and you're allowed up to 80 per cent with an abnormal form, such as funny-shaped heads or two tails, 'because 20 per cent of 20m is considered enough, it's a lot of sperm,' Dr Asaad chuckles.I'm curious: do anxious men often pop in on their own for a lunchtime sperm test, check everything is wriggling right? 'It's not common, but when men present on their own, it's normally a problem with their ability to have an erection or ejaculation.'Well as you can tell I have no problems in that area, I say.'But some men don't like to give a sample,' he continues. 'They find all kinds of excuses: maybe they are worried it will not be good, or that it's an artificial thing, to press a button [is he talking about the remote control?]. I don't know how it was for you, I'm not asking. Sometimes a gentleman will have difficulty preparing manually.' Unbelievable.The walls and desk of the doctor's office are smothered with framed photographs of beaming parents with their children - patients he's helped to fashion a bundle of joy for over the years. In your experience, I ask Dr Asaad, when is a good age for procreation? 'You're mature enough by your late twenties, early thirties, responsible enough, you probably have a job, a partner. I don't think it's a very serious problem waiting to 40-45, but beyond that you have to think about time with the child.'With that, Dr Asaad prints off a piece of A4 containing all my sperm's vital statistics. 'It's a good sample,' he says, 'so you're all right.' I'll spare you the details.On one hand this is a relief, but on the other it means I've no alibi, no excuses, I'm ready to breed. All I need now is a woman.Paternity frights: ten bus-pass fathersJulio Iglesias Sr, a dad at 89Nobody could accuse the gynaecologist father of Julio and grandfather of Enrique, and who was head of a Madrid family-planning unit, of not taking his work home with him. After having two children with his first wife, he remarried and, at 89, when his wife was 40, produced another son. Barely out of the maternity ward, Ronna signed up for IVF and within a few months was pregnant again. Tragically, filling a test-tube turned out to be the former Franco supporter's last significant act: two months later he was muerto. His daughter Ruth was born posthumously seven months later in July 2006. Dad-speak: 'At my age, a child is marvellous. I felt just like Abraham. It was an act of generosity towards her [Ronna]. I leave her part of my blood, of my life.'Saul Bellow, a dad at 84The Nobel Prize-winning novelist had four children: three sons with his first three wives, and a daughter, Naomi-Rose, with his 41-year-old fifth wife. He died when she was five, in 2005. Writing two months after his death, one of his sons, Adam, whose mother Bellow left when he was two, recalled 'a fond but highly attenuated bond with a frequently distracted, often absent and much older father.'Dad-speak: 'Well, my wife won't be lonely when I die. She'll have somebody'Anthony Quinn, a dad at 81The star of more than 100 movies, including Zorba the Greek and The Guns of Navarone, enjoyed procreating. He had five children with his first wife Katherine, the daughter of Cecil B DeMille, three with the second, then at the age of 81, he got his 29-year-old secretary pregnant, married her and had two children. The double Oscar-winner also squeezed in three more children with women he wasn't married to before he died in 2001.  Dad-speak: [of his penultimate child] 'She's beautiful, she looks like me'Rupert Murdoch, a dad at 72The Australian-American global media mogul (real first name Keith) has been married three times. He produced one child with the first and three (Elizabeth, James and Lachlan) during a 31-year marriage to the second. Seventeen days after the $1.2bn divorce, the Dirty Digger married former photographic model Deng Wendi (she transposed her names post nuptials), a 30-year-old executive at his Asian Star TV channel. They have two children, the most recent in July 2003. Dad-speak: 'All my children will be treated equally'Des O'Connor, a dad at 72The former Countdown host has been married four times and has four grown-up daughters. His current wife, the 37-years-younger singer/dancer Jodie, who he met in 1990, when they were doing panto together, provided him with a son in September 2004. Dad-speak: 'When the baby was born the odd comment was made about my age, but I plan to play football with Adam'Luciano Pavarotti, a dad at 67The well-upholstered tenor had three daughters with his first wife, who he stayed with for 35 years. Then, in 1996, he left her for his secretary, Nicoletta - 36 years his junior. In 2003 she gave birth to twins, another daughter and a son; tragically, the latter was stillborn. 'The King of the High Cs' died after a long battle with pancreatic cancer just before his youngest daughter's fifth birthday. Dad-speak: 'I never imagined that at this time of life I would have another child. But I met Nicoletta, and she is young'Warren Beatty, a dad at 62After years of womanising (Natalie Wood, Julie Christie, Isabelle Adjani, Vivien Leigh, Cher, Madonna, Carly Simon, Barbra Streisand, Britt Ekland, Diane Keaton, Mary Tyler Moore, Janice Dickinson and Faye Dunaway to name a few) he plumped for Annette Bening. They've had four kids, the latest of whom was born in 2000. I think we can assume fatherhood has mellowed Warren. Dad-speak: 'We're fortunate to have a big house'Rod Stewart, a dad at 60The rooster-haired senior citizen has been breeding for 41 years. He's had seven children by five different women, although modest Rod often downgrades to six offspring, passing over his first, who was put up for adoption: 'You can count her if you want. I try not to,' he once said. Penny Lancaster provided him with his sixth/seventh, Alastair, in 2005. According to his brother Don, Rod prefers to leave Alastair's nappy-changing and feeding to the hired help. Unperturbed, 37-year-old Penny has dropped heavy hints she'd like a second with the 63-year-old Celtic fan.Dad-speak: 'I didn't see my oldest kids a lot as they were growing up. I don't feel any guilt, but maybe having a family is something Rachel and Alana and I should have thought about more before we had children'Michael Douglas, a dad at 58The Basic Instinct star had a son, Cameron, with Diandra Luker, his wife of 23 years. She divorced him in 2000. Later that year he ran into Catherine Zeta Jones and seduced her with the admirably direct and honest line: 'I'd like to father your children.' True to his word he hasn't let the 25-year age gap stop him from impregnating her twice, when he was 55 and 58.Dad-speak: 'It's not that I didn't enjoy it the first time, but I just didn't have the time. I'm not the only father who has felt guilty about the lack of time spent with his kids. So now I have a situation where I can savour it with my younger children. And you can see the effect of hanging out with them for three years and the security they have. And for me, it's a ball. Movie roles come and go and it's a finite period of time. This is sort of eternal'John Humphrys, a dad at 56The Welsh son of a hairdresser and French polisher has been married twice. The first wife provided the Mastermind host with two children, now both grown up. He remarried in 1987 and, after a reverse vasectomy, the Today programme interrogator became a proud father to a son, Owen. Dad speak: 'I thought I might resent this little kid for buggering up my life, as it were. The opposite has happened to me because of him. He's the most wonderful thing that's ever happened to me'FamilyHealth & wellbeingHealthguardian.co.uk © Guardian News & Media Limited 2008 | Use of this content is subject to our Terms & Conditions | More Feeds<blockquote style="background:#FAFAFA;border:1px dotted #E6E6E6;font:italic 10pt Times New Roman;padding:9px;">			Is 41 too late to become a father? |				Life and style |				The Observer	 {...} The latest science claims older dads can cause autism, schizophrenia and Down's Syndrome - and their fertility fades with age. Ian Tucker consults his biological clock {...}</blockquote><div style="font:8pt Verdana,Arial;vertical-align:top;"><span style="color:#808080;">Published:</span> November 16, 2008, 12:05 am - <span style="color:#808080;">Indexed:</span> November 16, 2008, 12:14 pm - <span style="color:#808080;">Page Size:</span>&nbsp;123KB</div><div style="font:8pt Verdana,Arial;vertical-align:top;"><span style="color:#808080;">Category:</span> <a href="http://www.world-of-newave.info/regional/">Regional</a> &gt; <a href="http://www.world-of-newave.info/regional/europe/">Europe</a> &gt; <a href="http://www.world-of-newave.info/regional/europe/united-kingdom/">United Kingdom</a> &gt;  <a href="http://www.world-of-newave.info/regional/europe/united-kingdom/news-and-media/"><b>News and Media</b></a></div></td></tr></table>
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<summary type="text/plain">WESTIN KA'ANNAPALI'S BEACH'S WORLD CLASS "OCEAN VILLAS RESORT"
STUDIO or 1 BEDROOM
TOP FLOOR OCEAN VIEW!
RECESSION SPECIAL !
Studio $1,995
or
1 Bedroom $2,595
KA'ANNAPALI BEACH... VOTED ONE OF THE BEST BEACHES IN THE WORLD!*
2008 Weeks available starting: Mid-November, ALSO DECEMBER 14th ~ 21st @ $2,695OR"PRESIDENTS WEEK 2009"FEBRUARY 13th THRU 20th (Happy Valentines !)TOP FLOOR STUDIO OCEAN VIEW ONLY $2,495!(in the newer "North" Building's)
THE FEATURES:







This is a Starwwod Vacation Ownership Development built in 2003 consisting of 3 buildings.the conplex is oceanfront on Ka'anapali beach...these units are large and bright and still like new!

Room catagory is "OCEAN VIEW" overlooking the islands of Lanai or Molokai

The Resort is widely known as the BEST Condo Resort on Ka'anapali Beach!

Each unit has the famous "Heavenly King Bed"!

Studio unit has a Dining area, Granite top galley kitchen, and bathroom with a "Jacuzzi" bathtub.

One Bedroom unit has Full size Dining Table (seats 6), Full Kitchen w/Granite top, Full master bedroom w/ensuite with a large "Jacuzzi" tub

Other features include a fitness room, video game lounge for kids and teens, and a movie theatre, plus much more.

Barbeques complete with eating area, are available on the patio deck, close proximity to the swimming pools, but only 50+/- feet from the beach.

The Resort is an easy walk to the town of Lahaina for shopping on the famous Front Street Boardwalk, with regular shuttle service to the up-scale "Whaler's Village" shops and dining.

We'll accept PAYPAL upon obtaining the reservation confirmation number. 


Please email me with ANY questions: MauiCondo@area.net OR call 916-984-1456 and leave a detailed message


 

Checkin   : @ 4 pm
Checkout: @ 11 am
See whats happening LIVE RIGHT NOW at the "Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Club Resort"  click the link >  
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Studio Villa:  http://www.starwoodvacationownership.com/westin_kaanapali_ocean_resort_villas_north/studio_premium.jsp
1BR Villa: http://www.starwoodvacationownership.com/westin_kaanapali_ocean_resort_villas_north/onebedroom_premium.jsp
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STUDIO or 1 BEDROOM
TOP FLOOR OCEAN VIEW!
RECESSION SPECIAL !
Studio $1,995
or
1 Bedroom $2,595
KA'ANNAPALI BEACH... VOTED ONE OF THE BEST BEACHES IN THE WORLD!*
2008 Weeks available starting: Mid-November, ALSO DECEMBER 14th ~ 21st @ $2,695OR"PRESIDENTS WEEK 2009"FEBRUARY 13th THRU 20th (Happy Valentines !)TOP FLOOR STUDIO OCEAN VIEW ONLY $2,495!(in the newer "North" Building's)
THE FEATURES:







This is a Starwwod Vacation Ownership Development built in 2003 consisting of 3 buildings.the conplex is oceanfront on Ka'anapali beach...these units are large and bright and still like new!

Room catagory is "OCEAN VIEW" overlooking the islands of Lanai or Molokai

The Resort is widely known as the BEST Condo Resort on Ka'anapali Beach!

Each unit has the famous "Heavenly King Bed"!

Studio unit has a Dining area, Granite top galley kitchen, and bathroom with a "Jacuzzi" bathtub.

One Bedroom unit has Full size Dining Table (seats 6), Full Kitchen w/Granite top, Full master bedroom w/ensuite with a large "Jacuzzi" tub

Other features include a fitness room, video game lounge for kids and teens, and a movie theatre, plus much more.

Barbeques complete with eating area, are available on the patio deck, close proximity to the swimming pools, but only 50+/- feet from the beach.

The Resort is an easy walk to the town of Lahaina for shopping on the famous Front Street Boardwalk, with regular shuttle service to the up-scale "Whaler's Village" shops and dining.

We'll accept PAYPAL upon obtaining the reservation confirmation number. 


Please email me with ANY questions: MauiCondo@area.net OR call 916-984-1456 and leave a detailed message


 

Checkin   : @ 4 pm
Checkout: @ 11 am
See whats happening LIVE RIGHT NOW at the "Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Club Resort"  click the link >  
http://www.tiki.net/~rw/video/westinkaanapali.html
Studio Villa:  http://www.starwoodvacationownership.com/westin_kaanapali_ocean_resort_villas_north/studio_premium.jsp
1BR Villa: http://www.starwoodvacationownership.com/westin_kaanapali_ocean_resort_villas_north/onebedroom_premium.jsp
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<summary type="text/plain">WESTIN KA'ANNAPALI'S BEACH'S WORLD CLASS "OCEAN VILLAS RESORT"
STUDIO or 1 BEDROOM
TOP FLOOR OCEAN VIEW!
RECESSION SPECIAL !
Studio $1,995
or
1 Bedroom $2,595
KA'ANNAPALI BEACH... VOTED ONE OF THE BEST BEACHES IN THE WORLD!*
2008 Weeks available starting: Mid-November, ALSO DECEMBER 14th ~ 21st @ $2,695OR"PRESIDENTS WEEK 2009"FEBRUARY 13th THRU 20th (Happy Valentines !)TOP FLOOR STUDIO OCEAN VIEW ONLY $2,495!(in the newer "North" Building's)
THE FEATURES:







This is a Starwwod Vacation Ownership Development built in 2003 consisting of 3 buildings.the conplex is oceanfront on Ka'anapali beach...these units are large and bright and still like new!

Room catagory is "OCEAN VIEW" overlooking the islands of Lanai or Molokai

The Resort is widely known as the BEST Condo Resort on Ka'anapali Beach!

Each unit has the famous "Heavenly King Bed"!

Studio unit has a Dining area, Granite top galley kitchen, and bathroom with a "Jacuzzi" bathtub.

One Bedroom unit has Full size Dining Table (seats 6), Full Kitchen w/Granite top, Full master bedroom w/ensuite with a large "Jacuzzi" tub

Other features include a fitness room, video game lounge for kids and teens, and a movie theatre, plus much more.

Barbeques complete with eating area, are available on the patio deck, close proximity to the swimming pools, but only 50+/- feet from the beach.

The Resort is an easy walk to the town of Lahaina for shopping on the famous Front Street Boardwalk, with regular shuttle service to the up-scale "Whaler's Village" shops and dining.

We'll accept PAYPAL upon obtaining the reservation confirmation number. 


Please email me with ANY questions: MauiCondo@area.net OR call 916-984-1456 and leave a detailed message


 

Checkin   : @ 4 pm
Checkout: @ 11 am
See whats happening LIVE RIGHT NOW at the "Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Club Resort"  click the link >  
http://www.tiki.net/~rw/video/westinkaanapali.html
Studio Villa:  http://www.starwoodvacationownership.com/westin_kaanapali_ocean_resort_villas_north/studio_premium.jsp
1BR Villa: http://www.starwoodvacationownership.com/westin_kaanapali_ocean_resort_villas_north/onebedroom_premium.jsp
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<title>{EUROPE &gt; NEWS AND MEDIA} - On song: Tom Jones talks to Simon Hattenstone</title>
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<summary type="text/plain">Tom Jones has two recurring nightmares. In the first, he is wrongfully accused of murder. In the second, he has hidden a body in the attic, the house has just been sold and the body is about to be discovered. He wakes up in a bath of sweat. The nightmares confused him for years. "I haven't killed anybody. I've never wanted to kill anybody. I've tried to analyse it, and I think, since I started making hit records, I've thought, 'Jesus Christ, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me.' But always you think this is going to fall apart. Something will happen. There is a skeleton in the closet." He stops. "Which there isn't. But in my mind I think they're going to find that out, and that's going to finish me."Jones, now 68, has a lovely way of telling stories, as if every thought has hit him for the first time.Perhaps there's another reason for the nightmares. His biggest hit, Green, Green Grass Of Home, was about a man facing execution. Another huge single, Delilah, tells the story of a jealous boyfriend killing his girlfriend. His new album is called 24 Hours and the title track is about another man on death row ? though it can just as easily be read as the sombre reflections of an elderly man looking into the abyss. It's a landmark album for Jones ? his most personal, and the first for which he has a joint writing credit on most of the songs.We first meet in a London hotel. He is wearing black, as he often does. Black polo neck, black trousers, black shoes, strange black hair that looks as if it could be woven from acrylic, and black goatee. He is accompanied by his son and daughter-in-law, Mark and Donna Woodward, the svengalis behind his renaissance over the past 20 years. Mark looks like a greyer version of his father ? how Jones might look if he'd chosen a more sober career. Jones also introduces me to a handsome elderly man with snow white hair, Don Archell, his personal assistant, and to the singer Cerys Matthews, with whom he duetted on the hit record Baby, It's Cold Outside. Jones orders the first of his vodka martinis, and he's off.If there's one thing Tom Jones enjoys as much as singing, it's chatting. He's seen so much, met so many people, had such a lucky life, of course he wants to talk about it, he says. He loves being interviewed. "Look, if I go into a pub, I'm doing an interview because people want to know things. And I love my life, I love my achievements, I love talking about it . If somebody wasn't asking me, I'd go and find someone and say, 'Guess what I did?!' It's a Celtic thing. The people in Wales, they all talk, and I love it."So he talks about drinking with Robbie Williams' dad in Los Angeles, his grandson's skills on the ski slopes , the time Otis Redding told him that soul singers try to sing like Jones. "I said to Otis, 'You're joking ? I'm trying to sound like you.'" Jones spent so many years in Vegas, singing epic ballads, that it is easy to forget he was one of the great white soul singers. Go to YouTube and watch him battling it out note for note with Stevie Wonder on Superstition, Aretha Franklin on See Saw and Tina Turner on Nutbush City Limits, and you see just how raw, radical and soulful he was.He grew up in Pontypridd in a Welsh mining community. His earliest memories are of tugging on his mother's sleeve at family weddings, asking when he could sing, and her saying he had to wait to be invited. He was five or six, and impatient. Even then, he says, when he got up, he was aware of the effect he had on the little girls. They made eyes at him, asked him what school he went to. He can't remember his voice being much different ? even then, he wanted to belt them out. "Some kids, they sing very high and then their balls drop and their voice drops. I can't remember that ever happening to me. It was higher, but it didn't change dramatically."He was useless at school. Not interested. He thinks he was slightly dyslexic, but says he might be making excuses for himself ? perhaps he was just thick. Even on the sports field, he couldn't concentrate ? sure, he'd play rugby because he had to, but all the while he'd be watching the time, telling himself in a few minutes he could be down the shops buying himself an air gun or at home singing. He boxed, but didn't much care for getting hit.At 13, he contracted tuberculosis. He was off school for two years, most of the time spent in bed. Thank God for TB, he says. If it hadn't been for the illness, he might have ended up down the mines, like his father. "The doctor said to my parents, ' Whatever you do, you can't put this boy in a coal mine because he has weak lungs .' And the weird thing is, with weak lungs I've become a fuckin' singer."The illness changed his attitude to life. "When I used to get up for an hour a day, I would stand at the front door and see my mates playing, going up the hills. They'd shout, 'All right, Tom' but I couldn't get out the door. There was a lamp-post at the end of our street, and I'd look at it and think, once I can walk from this door to that lamp-post, I will never complain about another thing in my life. And that was it. And if I do, if the thought ever enters my mind, I see that lamp-post."He returned to school for a year and left at 15 to work as a labourer's mate. "Hod carrying, mixing cement. Up and down ladders. Good, strong legs." A year later, he was married to Linda, living in her mother's house with baby Mark. They wanted more children, but a miscarriage left her infertile.Fast-forward another year and Jones is doing shifts on building sites by day and singing at working men's clubs by nights. The women loved him, but it was the fellas who really came to watch and judge. Big, tough, emotional men, they made for a demanding audience. "On Sunday nights it was men only. You'd have to make sure you put a bunch of ballads in there. The men loved them. Especially in Wales."All the time he really wanted to sing edgier songs. First, there was the new rock'n'roll of Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis, then there was the blues. "I was liking black singers without realising. And the blues. Big Bill Broonzy. I heard this song, 'If you was white, you's all right, if you was brown, stick around, but if you's black, oh brother, get back' and I thought what a great line that is." Jones' voice is lilting, even by Welsh standards, and every few minutes he breaks into song to illustrate his point. He can't help himself.It was when he got himself a band, and started to play rock'n'roll and blues and soul, that women went crazy for him. By now, Linda didn't like turning up to his shows. They made her feel uncomfortable, and she had Mark to look after, anyway. "She said, 'Go on, I know what those girls are like and I don't want to see it. As long as you come home here.' So that's what happened."In his mid-20s in 1964, Jones, still known as Tom Woodward (his mother's name was Jones), headed off for London, championed by the people of Pontypridd. All he had was his looks, the moves he had learned as a teenager and the voice. "My mates would say, 'You can sing, you've got to go to London,you've got to show these fuckers how to put it together.'" He hated leaving Linda and Mark at home, Linda working at a battery factory to make ends meet ? he considered it demeaning to be supported by a woman. Working in the mines or factories of Pontypridd was drudgery, certainly not a career. He promised himself that when he became successful, he would  ensure that his family never had to work again. One of the things of which he is most proud is that he was able to retire his father from the mines at 50.Three days later, on Saturday, we meet at Bethnal Green Working Men's Club in east London, where he is having his photograph taken. It's a throwback to his early days ? a huge red heart on the stage, carpets that stink of stale beer, and a few elderly men dotted around supping on pints. Jones is here with his mini entourage ? Don, Mark and Donna, and their ageing staffordshire bull terrier, Leroy. Leroy and Jones are not dissimilar ? both have been round the block a few times, yet exude a puppyish verve. Leroy likesnothing more than lying on his back and being given a good tickle. I would imagine the same could be said for Jones.Jones is all in black again ? this time in a frilly shirt rather than polo neck. After six decades in the business, he still gets self-conscious when having his picture taken. He asks if we'd mind leaving the room while he psyches himself up. When we return, he's fiddling with his silver crucifix, trying on a new shirt ? white this time ? and singing along to one of the songs. After the shoot, he fancies a drink. Two vodka martinis, please. He asks if I went on somewhere else the other night. He and Cerys had a bit of dinner and a few drinks, he says. "She left about 12.30 to 1am." But she was going to leave at 8pm? "Exactly!" he says with delight.Matthews later tells me she doesn't get much chance to go out now that she's a mother of two. "Tom is very persuasive. We had so much fun ? we didn't stop laughing. He's a riot and a good friend, as well as being an old school gentleman." She has never sung with anybody like him, she says. "It's the best feeling in the world. His instincts are natural, his passion is absolute. I once asked him what his ideal day would be and said don't let it be about music. 'Well, it couldn't be my ideal day if I couldn't get up and do a show,' he said."When Jones came to London in 1964, he hooked up with aspiring manager and song writer Gordon Mills. It was Mills who suggested changing the name to Jones ? very Welsh, very laddish, very Henry Fielding. Six months on, Jones felt he was wasting his time recording demos for stars to turn into hits. He made a demo of a song written by Mills called It's Not Unusual and was told it was going to be recorded by a young singer called Sandie Shaw. He knew he'd done the song more than justice, that it was perfect for him, and decided he would return to Pontypridd if he couldn't make it his. "Thank God Sandie Shaw listened to the demo and said, ' Whoever's singing this song, it's his song', so God bless her."Another vodka martini. A toast to Sandie Shaw. Jones has an incredible memory for dates. He'd do brilliantly on Mastermind with Tom Jones as his specialist subject. "I recorded It's Not Unusual on November 11 1964, it came out on January 22 1965 and it was number one by March 1, which was St David's Day. Tremendous!"There are a couple of things people know about Tom Jones: he has always been something of a ladies' man ? women throw their knickers at him ? and he is still married to the woman he wed at 16. It's not that he boasts about his conquests; others do that for him. There have been countless kiss'n'tells, most famously Mary Wilson of the Surpremes who claimed they had enjoyed a two-year fling; there was the paternity case (he paid out because, he says, he could not prove the boy was not his son ? there has been no relationship); and there have been the former associates who have done the dirty on him.For the first time on the new album, he addresses his infidelities in the remarkable confessional The Road, when he sings that however far and often he has strayed, he has always returned home. It is both a love song and an apology, isn't it? "Well, I never admit to anything, you know what I mean." I can't help laughing. Tom, you admit plenty in this song.He recites the lyrics as if standing at the pulpit. "'I have felt weakness when I was strong, felt sweetness when I was wrong.' Linda wouldn't say to me, 'What d'you mean by that?' No, she wouldn't do that. The thing that she likes more than anything else is, 'But the road always leads back to you.' And that 's the truth. I will never leave my wife. It never entered my mind." They've been apart a lot, he says. "But we are still in love with one another. You know, we're not sexually like we were, but we are still in tune with one another, we can still have fun with one another, we still talk. She's still the Welsh girl I married."He says Linda is shy, agoraphobic. When he has well-known friends around, she hides. I also heard she once beat him up after hearing about one of his affairs. "Oh yeah!" he says, almost enthusiastically. "She's actually thrown things at me." Sometimes, he says, she settles for harsh words. "The funniest thing is, we were having a bit of a barny one night in LA ? sometimes it can start off really nice, a nice dinner, back to the music room, put on the old records that we used to dance to when we were teenagers,  and it's all lovely, lovely, lovely, and then it becomes, 'Well, what about when you did this?' "Would that be about Mary Wilson? "Exactly. Things like that. So she said, 'Let me tell you something, but you've got to stand there, and you've got to promise me that you will not try and get hold of me.' And I thought, 'Jesus, what's she going to tell me ? that she's been with an old friend of mine or what?' So I'm expecting the worst, and we're both well oiled by this point. 'OK, come on, what is it?' She says, 'If you couldn't sing, you wouldn't have a friend in the world' and runs out of the room. Well, I fell on the floor in a heap. She thought that was the worst thing she could ever say to me ? I thought it was hilarious."Does he think there's any truth in it? "Maybe! No, nah." I ask if she has had affairs. "Not as far as I know ? Best not to go into it. We don't discuss it, never have." He pauses. "That has never been discussed either, if you know what I mean ? the not discussing it. Should we have another?"I'm beginning to sink into a happy blur, while Jones is remembering more and more dates: 1968, Copacabana, New York ? the first time he had knickers thrown at him. "There was a supper club, and the singer sang at the same level as the table and chairs, right on the floor. And the more people you drew into the club, the smaller the area in which you performed ? like some of the northern clubs. At one point I'm performing in a tiny area and I'm sweating ? I was always a good sweater. So because they'd had dinner, they had napkins on the table, so they see me sweating and hand me their napkins, I hand them back and they'd keep them. So this one woman stood up ? up with the dress, down with the drawers. Took 'em off and handed them to me." What did you do? "I wiped my brow and said, 'Sweetheart, watch you don't catch cold.' Because you always learn in working men's clubs, no matter what happens, you've got to try to make some fun out of it." When he went to Vegas for the first time later that year, the women started throwing hotel keys as well.In the 70s, his income tax rose to 98 %; Jones and Linda packed their bags and moved to Los Angeles, where they still live. By now, he was known for his tight trousers, hairy chest, snake hips and libidinous thrust as much as for the voice. Was he as horny as he appeared to be, or was it an act? Hell, no, he says, appalled, it was ? is ? for real. Was any other performer as sexually charged as him? "Well, the only one really was Elvis Presley. I knew him very well, and he said I see in you what I feel myself. You see, Elvis was a macho man, he was a good-looking fella, but he was still strong. That's why he was always doing karate in those movies, it was a male thing that he felt. So, not to pick on Mick Jagger, but [Elvis] said how the fuck ? what do people see in the Beatles and the Stones and these British bands? He said thank heaven for you coming out of Britain, that you feel the same thing. I said, 'Well, you are partly to blame, it was watching you ? you rubbed off on me so much that you gave me confidence to do it.'" Does he get excited on stage? "Oh yeah!" Sexually excited? "Well, you don't get physically aroused, because you concentrate so much."I ask if it is true that at his shows he was provided with both a dressing room and a love-making suite. He looks sheepish, and stutters into a non sequitur. "Well, well ? I ? no ! Well, we can't go into that ? but I do love to drink. Though not before a show ? "His friendship with Elvis provided him with some of his most cherished memories. They never performed together publicly, but they often went to Elvis's hotel suite for a sing-song when they were both playing Vegas . "He'd say, 'I'll get the group up and we'll do something' and I'd already done two shows. There were two songs he loved at the time. A song Kris Kristofferson wrote called Why Me and Roberta Flack's Killing Me Softly. Once he latched on to something, he wouldn't let it go. So we're at the suite, comparing gospel I learned in Wales with gospel he learned in Mississippi. We must have sung The Old Rugged Cross a dozen times with an electric piano and his vocal group, the Sweet Inspirations. He'd say, 'D'you think I'd like Wales, Tom, if I came over ?' I said, 'You'd love the male voice choirs.' I had this vision of taking him up the Rhondda valley and having him sing with all the choirs."For the last two years of Presley's life, Jones never saw him. He knew he'd become addicted to diet pills and had turned in on himself, but he didn't know how desperate he was. In 1977, Presley died and Jones still regrets that he didn't make more of an effort to help him. Towards the end he had stopped taking calls. "I didn't know Elvis was sick. I thought he was just getting lazy ? he was getting heavy and pushed people away from him. The first thing that hit me after he died was I should have gone and seen him. Priscilla called me, and said, 'When you show up, you give him a spark. He's got this competitive spark in him again.' So I thought maybe I could have given him that shot again. Maybe."Presley's death coincided with a downturn in Jones' fortunes. He came to be regarded as a kitsch crooner, a parody of his former self, and went without another hit in Britain for 15 years. He continued to sell out shows, but the venues were smaller. The knickers and door keys began to pall. People stopped talking about the voice. "The thing that I don't like about it, it became a joke. People go, 'Oh Tom Jones, knickers.' You want another?"Two more vodka martinis."Since then I've thought it's positive, it's not as if they're throwing bottles at you. But it did become a bit of a joke. Girls would run to the front even when I'm doing a ballad. You're trying to create a mood, doing the Green, Green Grass Of Home, and underwear lands straight on you, and everybody laughs. I once did a radio show with Howard Stern in New York and Roger Daltrey was going in after me, and he said, 'I just had to walk through a room full of knickers back there, I thought you must be on the show.' And I thought, ' Oh fuck, it's even got to Roger Daltrey' ? all he could think to say about me was not love the way you sing or hate the way you sing, but knickers."I'm staring at Jones through my martini glass. His teeth are so white. "Oh yeah, they were capped," he says. His hair ? so black."Oh yeah, that's dyed." His skin ? so firm. "Oh yeah, I had the fat removed from under my chin. That's basically why I wear the goatee because it covers the scar. If I went for laser treatment, I could get rid of it, but I thought, fuck it, I'll wear a goatee. And my nose, that was straightened. Then, with the eyes, they took the heaviness out of the lids. Thank God the plastic surgeon said you've got to be careful because you've got to look like you, you can't look like someone else." A toast. To the plastic surgeon.In 1986, Gordon Mills, his manager, died. Jones was devastated. He had lost a close friend, and his career was in a trough. And that was when his son Mark came into his own. Ever since Mark had been in his late teens, he had toured with his father, helping out with the lights and design, even the song choices. Mark himself was a fine singer, but he got red-light fever if he had to perform ? the studio light went on and he lost his bottle. But what he loved more than anything was dreaming up strategies that might revive his father's career. "Mark said to me, 'Well, what do we do now for a manager?' and I said, 'Why don't you have a go?' Donna, his wife, was Bill Cosby's secretary and she was always talking about things she thought I should be doing, so I said, 'Why don't you both do it? We can do it all together ? '"Mark looked at Jones' act ? the knickers and the tight trousers and the old repertoire ? and told his father that there was a good reason people didn't talk about the singing any more. " When I see those old clips, I see why people didn't take me more seriously, vocally ? cos your trousers are too tight. Not tight in the waist," he says delicately. "And I've always had big legs, so where are you going to put all that stuff. So there it was. When I look at it, I think no wonder people went, 'Oh!' when I came on stage."Mark realised that what had been problematic for Mills ? Jones' versatility ? could prove a virtue. If Jones could sing anything, why not hire trendy producers and record some of the contemporary songs he performed in his shows. In 1988, Jones had a massive hit with the Prince song Kiss, produced by techno pop stars Art Of Noise. A new young audience was entranced by the voice. "There was no baggage for them. You want another?"A toast. To Mark, Prince, Tom's stamina and his not-so-tight trousers.Monday morning, 8.15am, BBC radio studios in London. Jones isn't used to early mornings, but you wouldn't know it. He fair bounds in ? all in black, new jumper . "You go on anywhere, on Saturday?" he says.No, straight home, I tell him. And you? "Ah, nothing much. Don and I had a meal, and some red wine." A second later he realises he's forgotten something. "And a few champagnes. Have I got time for the khazi?" They tell him he's due on any second. Ever the professional, Jones holds it in. Wogan and Jones ? both of them knighted ? are chatting way in the studio. Meanwhile, Don Archell is reminiscing about drinking way back when ? "Oh yes, he was up there with the Richards in the old days ? Burton and Harris. I couldn't keep up with him, no way. I don't know how he did it. In Vegas, we used to be up till 7-8am. I'm glad it's not like that any more." Don still accompanies him around the world ? 200 shows a year. Home for Jones is LA, home for Don is Luton. "Mind you, I'm hardly ever there."What's Jones like as a man? "As you see him. Every day. Never changes. Same mood. Never loses it. So laid back." Wogan says it's amazing that after all these years Jones is so fashionable, with artists such as Duffy and MarkRonson keen to recapture the retro feel. The funny thing is that at his peak in the 60s and early 70s, Jones was never really cool ? not like today. In 2000, he released Reload, an album of covers recorded with other artists and bands including Robbie Williams and the Stereophonics. It went on to sell four million ? his biggest album. In 2005, he was estimated to be worth £175m.I ask Mark, who is the boss ? him or his dad? "Well, it's a proper relationship." Does it feel like a traditional father/son relationship? "It depends what you're doing. We were always friends, but if we weren't a proper manager/artist relationship at some point in the day, it wouldn't have worked for long." Does he have to make the decisions for Jones? "He relies on it. I know what he can sing."Jones is talking about the new album. He loves the fact that, along with the more reflective songs, it's a statement about the here and now ? that he's still around, and plans to be for some time. The opening song, I'm Alive, is a dance track every bit as celebratory as its title. He directs me to the lyrics ofanother song, Seasons. "What I like about that song is that I walk on and 'make my memories'. I'm still making my memories, I'm not just thinking of old memories."A week later Jones is on Jools Holland's BBC2 show, Later. No sign of Leroy, but Mark is on stage giving his father instructions. Profile to profile, deep in discussion, they look as if they could be auditioning for a Welsh Sopranos. As the other acts perform, Jones stands in front of his band, straight-backed and still, waiting his turn. When he gets his chance, there is a transformation ? the blood seems to be flowing faster. There's a technical hitch, and he is asked to start again. "Do we have to stop?" he pleads. I'm reminded of the little boy tugging at his mother's sleeves. He sings three songs from the new album, and at the end of each his face creases into ecstasies.Back in the changing room, he's buzzing. He thinks his voice now is better than it ever has been. "I've only lost a little bit on the high end, thank God, and I've gained a tremendous amount of bottom end. I couldn't have sung 24 Hours in that low key when I was in my 20s. And it's become richer. When you experience life, you read more into things. When you're younger, you're charging, and you think, 'Right, I'll hit the shit out of this, smacking  everything.' I still do to an extent, but there's pathos."It's notable how many times, over the days, he's thanked God. Well, he says, he was raised a Presbyterian and though he doesn't attend chapel, he has never lost his faith. "I pray every night by the bed before I go to sleep. I say, 'Look after my family and my friends and band members and all the people who work with me, and thank you for giving me this voice. Please may I keep it for as long as I live.'" ? 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<td width="100%" style="font:9pt Verdana,Arial,Sans-serif;vertical-align:top;"><span style="color:#808080;font-variant:small-caps;">Www.Guardian.Co.Uk</span> - Tom Jones has two recurring nightmares. In the first, he is wrongfully accused of murder. In the second, he has hidden a body in the attic, the house has just been sold and the body is about to be discovered. He wakes up in a bath of sweat. The nightmares confused him for years. "I haven't killed anybody. I've never wanted to kill anybody. I've tried to analyse it, and I think, since I started making hit records, I've thought, 'Jesus Christ, this is the best thing that's ever happened to me.' But always you think this is going to fall apart. Something will happen. There is a skeleton in the closet." He stops. "Which there isn't. But in my mind I think they're going to find that out, and that's going to finish me."Jones, now 68, has a lovely way of telling stories, as if every thought has hit him for the first time.Perhaps there's another reason for the nightmares. His biggest hit, Green, Green Grass Of Home, was about a man facing execution. Another huge single, Delilah, tells the story of a jealous boyfriend killing his girlfriend. His new album is called 24 Hours and the title track is about another man on death row ? though it can just as easily be read as the sombre reflections of an elderly man looking into the abyss. It's a landmark album for Jones ? his most personal, and the first for which he has a joint writing credit on most of the songs.We first meet in a London hotel. He is wearing black, as he often does. Black polo neck, black trousers, black shoes, strange black hair that looks as if it could be woven from acrylic, and black goatee. He is accompanied by his son and daughter-in-law, Mark and Donna Woodward, the svengalis behind his renaissance over the past 20 years. Mark looks like a greyer version of his father ? how Jones might look if he'd chosen a more sober career. Jones also introduces me to a handsome elderly man with snow white hair, Don Archell, his personal assistant, and to the singer Cerys Matthews, with whom he duetted on the hit record Baby, It's Cold Outside. Jones orders the first of his vodka martinis, and he's off.If there's one thing Tom Jones enjoys as much as singing, it's chatting. He's seen so much, met so many people, had such a lucky life, of course he wants to talk about it, he says. He loves being interviewed. "Look, if I go into a pub, I'm doing an interview because people want to know things. And I love my life, I love my achievements, I love talking about it . If somebody wasn't asking me, I'd go and find someone and say, 'Guess what I did?!' It's a Celtic thing. The people in Wales, they all talk, and I love it."So he talks about drinking with Robbie Williams' dad in Los Angeles, his grandson's skills on the ski slopes , the time Otis Redding told him that soul singers try to sing like Jones. "I said to Otis, 'You're joking ? I'm trying to sound like you.'" Jones spent so many years in Vegas, singing epic ballads, that it is easy to forget he was one of the great white soul singers. Go to YouTube and watch him battling it out note for note with Stevie Wonder on Superstition, Aretha Franklin on See Saw and Tina Turner on Nutbush City Limits, and you see just how raw, radical and soulful he was.He grew up in Pontypridd in a Welsh mining community. His earliest memories are of tugging on his mother's sleeve at family weddings, asking when he could sing, and her saying he had to wait to be invited. He was five or six, and impatient. Even then, he says, when he got up, he was aware of the effect he had on the little girls. They made eyes at him, asked him what school he went to. He can't remember his voice being much different ? even then, he wanted to belt them out. "Some kids, they sing very high and then their balls drop and their voice drops. I can't remember that ever happening to me. It was higher, but it didn't change dramatically."He was useless at school. Not interested. He thinks he was slightly dyslexic, but says he might be making excuses for himself ? perhaps he was just thick. Even on the sports field, he couldn't concentrate ? sure, he'd play rugby because he had to, but all the while he'd be watching the time, telling himself in a few minutes he could be down the shops buying himself an air gun or at home singing. He boxed, but didn't much care for getting hit.At 13, he contracted tuberculosis. He was off school for two years, most of the time spent in bed. Thank God for TB, he says. If it hadn't been for the illness, he might have ended up down the mines, like his father. "The doctor said to my parents, ' Whatever you do, you can't put this boy in a coal mine because he has weak lungs .' And the weird thing is, with weak lungs I've become a fuckin' singer."The illness changed his attitude to life. "When I used to get up for an hour a day, I would stand at the front door and see my mates playing, going up the hills. They'd shout, 'All right, Tom' but I couldn't get out the door. There was a lamp-post at the end of our street, and I'd look at it and think, once I can walk from this door to that lamp-post, I will never complain about another thing in my life. And that was it. And if I do, if the thought ever enters my mind, I see that lamp-post."He returned to school for a year and left at 15 to work as a labourer's mate. "Hod carrying, mixing cement. Up and down ladders. Good, strong legs." A year later, he was married to Linda, living in her mother's house with baby Mark. They wanted more children, but a miscarriage left her infertile.Fast-forward another year and Jones is doing shifts on building sites by day and singing at working men's clubs by nights. The women loved him, but it was the fellas who really came to watch and judge. Big, tough, emotional men, they made for a demanding audience. "On Sunday nights it was men only. You'd have to make sure you put a bunch of ballads in there. The men loved them. Especially in Wales."All the time he really wanted to sing edgier songs. First, there was the new rock'n'roll of Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis, then there was the blues. "I was liking black singers without realising. And the blues. Big Bill Broonzy. I heard this song, 'If you was white, you's all right, if you was brown, stick around, but if you's black, oh brother, get back' and I thought what a great line that is." Jones' voice is lilting, even by Welsh standards, and every few minutes he breaks into song to illustrate his point. He can't help himself.It was when he got himself a band, and started to play rock'n'roll and blues and soul, that women went crazy for him. By now, Linda didn't like turning up to his shows. They made her feel uncomfortable, and she had Mark to look after, anyway. "She said, 'Go on, I know what those girls are like and I don't want to see it. As long as you come home here.' So that's what happened."In his mid-20s in 1964, Jones, still known as Tom Woodward (his mother's name was Jones), headed off for London, championed by the people of Pontypridd. All he had was his looks, the moves he had learned as a teenager and the voice. "My mates would say, 'You can sing, you've got to go to London,you've got to show these fuckers how to put it together.'" He hated leaving Linda and Mark at home, Linda working at a battery factory to make ends meet ? he considered it demeaning to be supported by a woman. Working in the mines or factories of Pontypridd was drudgery, certainly not a career. He promised himself that when he became successful, he would  ensure that his family never had to work again. One of the things of which he is most proud is that he was able to retire his father from the mines at 50.Three days later, on Saturday, we meet at Bethnal Green Working Men's Club in east London, where he is having his photograph taken. It's a throwback to his early days ? a huge red heart on the stage, carpets that stink of stale beer, and a few elderly men dotted around supping on pints. Jones is here with his mini entourage ? Don, Mark and Donna, and their ageing staffordshire bull terrier, Leroy. Leroy and Jones are not dissimilar ? both have been round the block a few times, yet exude a puppyish verve. Leroy likesnothing more than lying on his back and being given a good tickle. I would imagine the same could be said for Jones.Jones is all in black again ? this time in a frilly shirt rather than polo neck. After six decades in the business, he still gets self-conscious when having his picture taken. He asks if we'd mind leaving the room while he psyches himself up. When we return, he's fiddling with his silver crucifix, trying on a new shirt ? white this time ? and singing along to one of the songs. After the shoot, he fancies a drink. Two vodka martinis, please. He asks if I went on somewhere else the other night. He and Cerys had a bit of dinner and a few drinks, he says. "She left about 12.30 to 1am." But she was going to leave at 8pm? "Exactly!" he says with delight.Matthews later tells me she doesn't get much chance to go out now that she's a mother of two. "Tom is very persuasive. We had so much fun ? we didn't stop laughing. He's a riot and a good friend, as well as being an old school gentleman." She has never sung with anybody like him, she says. "It's the best feeling in the world. His instincts are natural, his passion is absolute. I once asked him what his ideal day would be and said don't let it be about music. 'Well, it couldn't be my ideal day if I couldn't get up and do a show,' he said."When Jones came to London in 1964, he hooked up with aspiring manager and song writer Gordon Mills. It was Mills who suggested changing the name to Jones ? very Welsh, very laddish, very Henry Fielding. Six months on, Jones felt he was wasting his time recording demos for stars to turn into hits. He made a demo of a song written by Mills called It's Not Unusual and was told it was going to be recorded by a young singer called Sandie Shaw. He knew he'd done the song more than justice, that it was perfect for him, and decided he would return to Pontypridd if he couldn't make it his. "Thank God Sandie Shaw listened to the demo and said, ' Whoever's singing this song, it's his song', so God bless her."Another vodka martini. A toast to Sandie Shaw. Jones has an incredible memory for dates. He'd do brilliantly on Mastermind with Tom Jones as his specialist subject. "I recorded It's Not Unusual on November 11 1964, it came out on January 22 1965 and it was number one by March 1, which was St David's Day. Tremendous!"The